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Now prove how often the chimp must repeat this to succeed with 98% possibilty
RBlood is the fucking chimp.... infact, anyone taking part in the conversation abuot chimps writing poems is a tosser
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So it is basically like waiting for a 6million number lottery ticket to match up
Would it ever actually get to 1?
Indeed, i was until that dude said u cant actually do that with infinity so to speak, eg its a "limit"
I just cant see how a chimp would do it, even with infinite time, i think the bashing of the keys is correct, as the key presses would not be completely random
This has got stupid!
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right, im gonna put you all out of your miseries and shed some light on your pathetic little issue...

The chimp cant do it.... there is no way on earth that a chimpanzee can re-write the works of shakespear. You wanna know why? Cause if he didnt die of boredom first, hed die of old age. So fuck you all, i r teh winz!
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right, im gonna put you all out of your miseries and shed some light on your pathetic little issue...

The chimp cant do it.... there is no way on earth that a chimpanzee can re-write the works of shakespear. You wanna know why? Cause if he didnt die of boredom first, hed die of old age. So fuck you all, i r teh winz!
Brainiac prooved that it is possible. All you need is 15 chimp and around 10 billion years. You can save a lot if you use computers instead of paper.


Anyway i clearly see noone of you have any fucking idea about infinity. And some, what in the stupid USA they teach match in their fucking universities, in Hungary you learn exactly the same in any secondary or technician school. So fuck it.

With infinite chimps with infinite time you can make infinite copies of Shakespears work with infininte number of failed copies. Noone can beat this theory so STFU!
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yeah, of course an infinate number of chimps that had an infinate number of time could do it. A fly could write them in shit.... but saying that, anything can happen with infinate time...

Maybe you can grow a sense of humor...! or evolve from the chimp you really are
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Brainiac prooved that it is possible. All you need is 15 chimp and around 10 billion years. You can save a lot if you use computers instead of paper. ...
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Maybe you can grow a sense of humor...
Did you look into a mirror nowadays?
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Would it ever actually get to 1?
Well, if you repeat the test X number of times, it will never be 1, but, yes, it is kinda to do with limits, the more times you do it, the closer the probability gets to 1, but it never quite reaches 1. Thus, it's limit, is 1.

But of course, if you do it an infinite number of times, then let's say we do it 5000 times and that still fails, we can always try doing a 5001 time and there is a chance we will succeed, so we keep doing it, eventually, we have got to succeed because there is always this chance of succeeding next time... Ahaha, kinda like gambling I suppose

But hmm... I suppose you could try and argue that even if you went on and on forever you would never get that random combination you are looking for simply because your "random number generator" whatever that maybe, in this case a chimp, doesn't ever pick it, even though there is the possibility of it choosing it... Hmm... That is actually an interesting point I hadn't considered initially, and I'm not sure that the previous argument covers it But then, if the chimp never types the shakespeare play, is the probability of the chimp typing a shakespeare play on any given attempt really greater than 0? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Have to think about that one

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Now prove how often the chimp must repeat this to succeed with 98% possibilty
well let p = probability of chimp succeeding on first attempt
Then assuming Shakespeare's works are 6 million chars then p = 1/(60^6,000,000) = a very very very very very very very small number (assuming there are 60 chars on a keyboard... Which is probably wrong)
Then we bung this value of p into the binomial distribution testing it with different values of n (number of trials) e.g. 1,2,3,4,5,6... and so on. Until we get p > 0.98 at which point n is the required number of trials to get a probability of 98% of succeeding

Now the really interesting part here is how the fuck you would handle all that computation, by hand it would take forever and most computers will fuck up because the number is so small... Plus it might also take forever on a computer anyway... But at least the algorithm is there

Now who thought chimps could make life so complicated?
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